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I hate that my country is used as a dogwhistle for racist and xenophobic rethoric.
I've been seeing similar kinds of posts for a long time and I hate it. It paints my country as some sort of fantasy promised land free from all the people they hate. I hate it even more since we Poles (and slavs in general) were considered subhuman not even a hundred years ago, and now these racists use us as some sort of gotcha.
Also, those kind of posts often sexualise women from my country in a nasty way, comments are always full of dudes saying something like "time to start learning Polish to get a Polish wife".
Also, funny hypocrisy. They hate immigrants, but want to migrate to a different country, because it's... free from immigrants? Which is not true, there are immigrants from all around the world in Poland, for example have a sizeable vietnamese population.
I live in a rular area in Poland and I hear a lot of stories about city people moving to rular areas for "peace and viliage life" and after they move here with thier romanticised view of the countryside they have problems with loud farming equpiment and bad smell from animals, they file up petitions to limit the use off that heavy equipment to make thier life more comfortable. They come here and complain and want to change the place they moved to in thier image, and im preaty duckin sure that those are the same people that complain about imigrants from Arabic countries, Ukraine and east in general not asimiliating and wanting to change our country in thier image. Hypocricy is insane.
I live in France, and there are often news reports or journalistic documentaries about this exact problem. We moved from Paris to the countryside in the south of France. We absolutely love the ambient noise of agricultural life around us. Wouldn't change it for anything.
Same in Spain, with a case hitting the news where someone complained and sued about a rooster singing in the morning!!! thankfully the person suing had to pay 4500 eur as "moral damage" to the owner. And justice says that those sounds are part of the life there, independently of the decibels measured.
Suburbanites, not 'city' dwellers tend to be the most difficult. They move to the country, because they want the same suburban lifestyle, with less neighbors. They move to a city, they want everyone to accommodate them. Neither is going to work out for them. Spoiled brats.
The people who are closed minded and unaccomodating and want nothing to ever change or be even slightly inconvenient for them are going to be that way no matter where they move.
They do that in the city as well. People love going places and then trying to make it their ideal place as opposed to looking for their ideal place.
My favorite one so far was a person bought a condo above a bar and then proceeded to complain about the noise of the bar. And then took the bar to court. The person ultimately lost the case after way too much money was spent
When I was still a bartender, we had to observe a curfew in the street of bars (mind you, a street which had been the place for bars for more than half a millenium at that point)
And why?
Because the people who got Apartments there for cheap (because it is noisy) kept complaining to the city that it was too loud.
You love into a street which is mostly bars and complain about the people in bars.
The only difference in Austin is the space above/around the bars and other venues is bought out by big corporations more often than individual renters, so their complaints are even louder with a lot of money behind it the city tends to listen to for obvious reasons.
We've had the case a few years ago in Paris where a leftist bar had to be force-closed because people where compaining they'd get raided too many time by far-right gangsters trying to beat up antifas
It’s ridiculous here. I’ve lived in a very small community pretty much my entire life. Lots of farming here. Then during and after Covid all these rich Californians moved in and are shocked that my town of 8K people had nothing of note going on except high school sporting games and farming.
Last year was the first time I was ever in Idaho, and I gotta tell ya the stench of agriculture along the highway between Burley and Boise is something fierce. No disrespect to it, I get that's their bread and butter, but I imagine a lot of folks who romanticize farm life have never smelled a farm like that.
Yeah. My small farming town has been slowly taken over by 'city people.' They opened a new restaurant in town where all the ingredients are organic and a burger cost $25.00. Meanwhile, all the locals will go to the diner or fast food and spend half that or less.
Not to mention the home values. I'm somewhat happy because my home's value keeps going up but I look at some of the 100 year old houses and how much they're going for now.
This town used to be affordable before all these people came.
Every time I visit my family, I’m so fucking glad I was not born in rural Poland. Theres absolutely nothing to romanticise in there, just poverty, unemployment, super xenophobic conservative people, and rampant levels of alcoholism. And the villages aren’t even good looking and traditional like you might find in some places in Italy or France, it’s just a bunch of cheaply built houses from the 70s (at the earliest) designed by people with the worst taste imaginable. And if you are an American racist moving to the Polish countryside to find a Catholic tradwife, good luck with that because like 90% of the people under 40 (especially women, as most jobs in there are some sort of heavily male-dominated manual labour) have already moved out to the nearest big city to pursue a decent education and work opportunities
This is exactly what my father did. My mom divorced him (too late - but better late, and all that), the next girlfriend then took me aside, asked me "is he gonna change?", and when I said "Noooope. And that's his good side, too!", she likewise ditched him.
In the end, he married the Eastern European help that he'd hired to take care of my grandmother with dementia. I talked a bit with the fresh in-laws, and the deal had been pretty much this: She gets away from her alcoholic, abusive husband, and has to endure a different asshole who can't even properly talk to her (we talked in English, my dad doesn't speak it), but who can easily be mollified by greasy food, and doesn't just randomly start breaking bones. Small price to pay, and the grease will do the rest in time.
On the other hand, we have people moving in from villages hoping to get rich in "da big city" but all they end up doing is desperately pretend to be the most stereotypical (in my case at least) warsawian. Then when people go complain about people from Warsaw, it's rarely anyone who was actually born here. So seems like we just swap the two extremes :)
And then the grandkids of the people that moved to a village will move to a city and the grandkids of the people that moved to a city will move to a village. And so, the cycle will continue
It is like that to some extent but the fact is that one person making legal complaints in a small village is actually hindering the life of that village while the people coming into big cities are basically swallowed by the mass of those cities and don't really change the life of anyone there
Not sure If that's the case in Warsaw, but plenty people move to central districts in Berlin because they find it boring elsewhere, only to then succesfully file noise compliants against bars on the street that have been there since decades.
We have the same problem in France with people from Paris complaining about the smell and noises in rural areas. And lot of us hate people in Paris or we like to mock them because of that
I also live in a rular area in Poland and words cannot describe my disgust when city folk moved in onto our street and pretty much forced our local hen haver to butcher his roosters because they "were to load in the morning" like what the fuck is wrong with people
Upd. My country's been considered one of the whitest in the world for a while now. I think that's one of the few things we were known for pre-war. With the Americans it's always "le based" or "le problematic", some of them just can't wrap their heads around the fact that not everyone in the world is racist. We never had to deal with other races historically, we've never been an international hub and Ukraine isn't exactly great for work and tourism. It just kinda happened this way.
"We never had to deal with other races historically"...
Bro, what? We are mostly white nation ONLY because some lunatics either killed other nationalities within our border in death camps or send them to Siberia...
Starting like 1500+ till even 20th century when we werent on maps, Poland (PLC) and Bohemia were "runaway" destination for every minority in Europe. And we didnt have much problems with that.
I mean, tbf, most studies do show that Eastern Europeans do, on average, hold stronger racial biases. (How reliable those measurements are is another question.) Poland specifically also had a right wing anti-immigration government not to long ago, with the latter position also still being maintained by the current administration. Hungary has probably the most anti-immigration government in the EU.
Racism is strongly connected to the presence (and to some degree also the form) of multiculturalism. People who live in the immediate vicinity of members of other ethnic groups tend to be less biased.
A good example of that is Germany, where the east of the country, which has less migrants due to its Eastern Block history, holds noticeably more racial biases.
These are, of course, generalizations. That's not to say that everyone in Eastern Europe is racist; just that they are as a consequence of their material conditions, measurably more likely to.
Completely agree. It's the same thing in France. Paris is very multicultural yet few complain about immigration there. The people always complaining about immigrants and non-white people tend to live in very white areas themselves (we joke they never met a non-white person in their lives).
while all of that is true, eastern europe isn't (more) racially hegemonic because it is more racist, it is more racist because it is racially hegemonic. the low(er) racial diversity is caused by other factors, such as the ones mentioned by the original commenter. however i think there are two other crucial points that need to be considered if we want to discuss this issue:
the modern western multiculturalism is a product of colonialism. usa (and canada, australia, new zealand etc.) could not be a "melting pot" of cultures if the native populations of those regions hadn't been genocided into near or full extinction, only that allowed for a diverse society built on imigration from various corners of the world. similarly, the reason why there are as many non-white people in western countries is because those same countries subjected the rest of the world to colonialism and historically as well as presently build their wealth on extraction from and exploitation of those same countries. without this colonial inequity the incentive for immigration would be much smaller, resulting in smaller racial diversity. not to mention the effects of slavery and other forms of forced migration. obviously there has always been some form of racial or ethnic diversity basically everywhere, but the modern western model is a direct result of centuries of colonialism and racism.
the racial politics and relations in eastern europe (same as any other part of the world) are simply different than in the west. yes, most eastern european countries don't have a significant black, arab, latin, or south or east asian populations (those being the ones most commonly seen in the west). however there are different forms of diversity present. up until the half of the 20th century eastern europe was very heavily connected to jewish and romani people, to the point that "eastern european" was often equated with one of the two. romani people remain as one of the largest racial/ethnic minorities in eastern europe and although jewish people are largely absent (because they were genocided by a certain western country), there are still synagogues and jewish cemeteries basically everywhere. then in the second half of the 20th century education and work training programs brought quite a few non-white people from allied second world nations, especially vietnam, some of whom later settled here, contributing to a more diverse society. lastly, eastern europe doesn't hold the concept of whiteness as a monolith, nationality and ethnicity are arguably seen as more important than race itself. this means that even a population which to the eyes of an outsider appears homogenically white, can and often is experienced as diverse by the people living in it. it has almost become a meme that europeans will be racist towards people who speak a slightly different dialect, but this can actually be the case. in my opinion people from the west often underestimate the (possible) diversities whitin whiteness, there are other markers of ethnicity (and so sameness or otherness) than skin color - for example language or religion. this is a big factor in eastern europe, in some places arguably moreso than the typical western concept of race.
as for far-right government and anti-immigration politics: that is an issue everywhere in the world right now. i don't think it is fair to bring it up when arguing that eastern europe is more racist, given what governments and immigration policies exist in the west (and i don't meant just the usa) right now as well as historically. it can deffinetely be used to argue that eastern europe has problems with racism (which is absolutely true) but not that it is more racist than the west.
racism isn't only linked to multiculturalism, but also to wealth. these two factor often coincide of course, wealthier areas tend to be more diverse, but i don't think the economic aspect can be simply hand waved away. you can see that every time there is an economic crisis (as for example right now) racial enmity is on the rise. so eastern europe is not simply "more racist" due to less multiculturalism, but also significantly because of it's economic conditions, which are to a certain extent caused by the same colonial system that created modern western multiculturalism. since the wealth of western nations is built on centuries of colonial exploitation and eastern europe (with the exception of russia, although russian colonialism also has pronounced differences to western colonialism, among others being less profitable) never engaged in colonialism (apart from being subjegated by colonial countries and sometimes subjected to similar politics as overseas colonies), it didn't "have the chance" to build up such a strong economic position as western europe. this then resulted in the previously mentioned lesser incentive for migration to eastern european countries and so less racial diversity (at least in the western sense).
there are many more relevant factors, such as the otherization of eastern europeans themselves (see: dracula, the red scare or british view of polish immigrants), the intricacies of being in position of proximity to "peak whiteness" but not achieving it, eastern europe being veiwed as a bridge or wall (depending on what was needed) between the occident and the orient, repeatedly being used as a "buffer zone" between the west and the percieved "eastern enemy" (be it genghis khan, the ottomans or the soviet union) and being largely ethnically cleansed as part of a controlled allied effort to "stabilize" central and central-eastern europe after wwii and more, but this comment is already long enough lol
(just want to make it clear: i don't disagree that eastern europe has a problem with racism and at least certain countries can be considered "more racist" than western countries, i just think it is important to discuss the complex causes and realities, rather than just defaulting to "easterners are inherently more racist" "there's just less multiculturalism" or "eastern europe actually isn't racist at all")
I was actually surprised by this because before I had first hand experience, I heard a lot of American liberals glazing the Nordics about how great and equal they were.
They are especially racist towards Southern Europeans such as The Spanish, Portuguese and Italians.
Yeah I’m originally French but I live in Sweden everyone here thinks I’m Arab because apparently you can’t possible be European if you’re not pale with blonde hair & blue eyes…
Racism in Sweden is a little peculiar though. There’s been a resurgence of that straight-up old school racism in recent years but generally when Swedish people are racist they are so blatantly unaware that what they’re saying/doing is actually racist it almost becomes comical.
It’s happened multiple times a Swedish person will say something that’s clearly racist & when I look at them I can see they are completely oblivious to the fact. You can’t even get mad it just makes you wanna laugh but at the same time feel sorry for them lol
My first exposure to the Swedes was as a dev for a startup by a swedish guy.
Maybe the apparent naivety and unawareness is just some cultural thing I'm not getting, because this man was accomplished, well travelled etc but still came across extremely unaware and naive about so many things
I think it's a product of them being so homogenous for such a long time and just lacking in cultural (or any kind of) exposure.
I think it's also a great illustration of how homogeneity breeds ignorance and frankly kind of a weak culture.
Sweden struggles now because they took in a lot of immigrants from a very different culture, from largely the lower rungs of society, largely all from the same country/culture, stuffed them all in the same ghetto districts, etc.
But they also struggle because they're just a culture that's racist and ignorant and utterly unused to dealing with even the slightest difference or accomodating or integrating or assimilating basically anyone.
Hell, I'm from Finland (though not by ethnic background) and back in the 20th century the Swedes were even racist to Finnish immigrants. Though I guess we shouldn't expect much from a nation that was obsessed with measuring Finnish skulls in the past...
I can say a lot of negative things about Parisians but that they are racist is not one of them. It’s one of the most cosmopolitan cities in the world so you won’t really do too well being overtly racist there.
French people aren't racist in the classic sense. A better description would be Cultural Supremacists. Basically French culture is better than anything else. Also what happens a lot is that French people like to claim something to be French because the thing came from a French speaking region, even if that region is not in France itself. Had to argue with a guy once that (the) Bernoulli(s) was (were) infact Swiss and not French.
You can tell that we're rich now because we're the one of like 5 countries that got lego pokemon. Not even Denmark and the Czech republic got those, and they're importing them to us.
Yeah, and not even that long ago. That’s what makes the whole thing so absurd. It’s amazing how quickly those boundaries shift depending on who people want to exclude!
Yup the racism towards Easten Europeans is what drove the idea of Brexit. The result was that we had fewer white migrants and more people from other countries that aren't white coming in because we still need people to work jobs to keep the economy running. Now the same people are complaing about these immigrants. These people just want the country to stop working.
Any new group of people coming in large amounts are going to face initial backlash. That's just human nature. The thing is though, Polish people integrated pretty well and they're very, very hard workers for the most part. Those two things benefited them massively. The same cannot be said for others.
The rhetoric that was being thrown around about Polish workers at the time of the Brexit referendum was absolutely the opposite of what you seem to be implying.
People just shift who they think is 'integrated' based on the groups they don't like more than others.
Its still baffling to me how (mainly talking west here) there is a straight refusal to acknowledge the ridiculous amount of racism that Irish has faced through history, purely on the fact that now they are considered "white", as if that has any bearing on the matter
I am English, and I have a polish food market opposite my flat. I've been too scared to go in there (social anxiety) but if I do what food would be good to try???
Side side note. I have a Lithuanian friend and she made me "zeppelins" ones and they were amazing.
Also once I had these Lithuanian garlic bread sticka, I dark rye(?) bread and amazingly crunchy and garlicy. Do you have those in Poland too?
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They keep claiming it's a free speech haven while blissfully ignoring shit like their strict laws on "obscenity" that affects even pornography and erotic literature.
Pornography exists but it has to be censored (that's why Japanese porn is always blurred out). It doesn't matter if its straight or not in this regard.
A part of the reason tentacle porn is a thing is that a tentacle isn't a penis and so need not be censored. In general Japan is a very conservative and repressed society which creates more fucked up fantasies and porn.
Japan used to be an absolutely totalitarian free speech society by law (except for pixelation of porn but that’s not speech… and American post ww2 laws are to blame for that).
When people in Europe caused a scandal by having alluded to sex in their books in the Victorian age in Japan people made colorful drawings of octopus pleasuring women. When Germans buried their noses deeply into movies and books celebrating life and traditions in the 50s after WW2 and Hollywood banned obscenities and unpatriotic behaviors Japan had books and movies about soldiers becoming cannibals and public hysteria incited by newspaper about local doctors being involved with human experiments during ww2 (sometimes true, sometimes not…). And all of that despite the pressure of the U.S. and the conservative government against it. Japan was also one of the few countries in the western block in the Cold War with a large communist party that wasn’t silenced by laws.
And unpalatable to many (even in japan) depictions of pedophilia were not forbidden and neither were threats to people‘s lives. But nowadays Japan is cracking down more and more on the rather terrible side effects of this.
That’s being said - a relatives of my family in Japan have a communist married to a close to being fascist right winger… that is also Japan. A country where private interests and politics can be voiced without leading to people being pushed to the borders of society - which I btw don’t appreciate… a bit more public shaming for denying of Japanese war atrocities wouldn’t be the worst.
Honestly, twitter / X probably helped a lot in bringing western style division and connection of people‘s political stance and their public image nowadays … too bad X is now at least 60% right wingers and trolls…
I find it very ironic how Poland is suddenly this far-right bastion of pure whiteness and a perfect culture. I remember 10 years ago or so, Poles were constantly shit on for 'stealing jobs' in Western-Europe or being simply painted as all being thieves.
My mom came here with me when I was 3 years old, I don't even speak polish and I am not even interested in poland, my home is where I live.
Everything was fine until poland came into EU, what you mention is what I got to hear for years at school, I got bullied and above that I even got questions "how much is your mom per hour" because "polish women are like that".
At some point I didn't have these issues anymore, I was an adult and I don't tell people I am polish because the mood changes immediately.
"You must want a lot of kids", "You must be a great cook", "I want a polish housewife too", "Are you single?", "You must love sitting at home whole day and cooking for your husband".
No (don't want them), no (good yes, great no), creep, NO and no (not in a relationship with a guy)
And I don't tell it polish people either here because, they immediately start talking polish and look at me like some idiot for not being able to speak it and acting like a dutch person instead of like a polish one.
It’s funny seeing all these UK Reform people claim that they only have something against Muslims who want sharia law, when, like you said, there was a ton of fear-mongering against Eastern Europeans. They’re all thieves, they’re all stealing jobs, they resort to crime etc.
Not that their logic ever really worked. They support Russia, because it’s “the last Christian bastion of Europe” while Putin lets Kadyrov do whatever he wants.
Even more ironic is seeing all the Polish immigrants jump on the far right bandwagon when a decade ago they were a target of xenophobia. In the UK I am seeing these racists that clearly haven't been in the country more than 5 years (bad accents) targetting people born here because of the colour of their skin.
Ah, but you see, once you have someone that is clearly less white than your previous “you’re not white enough” race, you can let bygones be bygones, as the saying goes!
“Join us Poles, you can now be the ones to punch down with us!”
I'm from the classic 2000s era Pole in UK diaspora. Its so bad for me too, the amount of abuse I got growing up esspecially around brexit with the "Polish scum go home" type graffiti to now see so many of these reformer types be up the ass of Poland like "oh its so clean, its so xyz" like its not all right wing propaganda 99% of the time. I swear I'm so close to lying and saying it's a shithole to keep more of these right wing dickheads out
American immigrant to the Czech Republic here, and SAME.
The bit that gets me is when they start yapping about "traditional, submissive, family-centered slavic women..."
Then they come here, or go to y'all, or where-the-fuck-ever, and they meet the loud brassy fiercely-independent reality of Czech or Polish or Slovak or Ukrainian women, and the realize that the "politically incorrect humour" they make so much noise about includes things like Charlie Kirk jokes, and they LOSE. THEIR. SHIT.
Or they go to Poland because "...it's 98% Christian!"
...only to find that those Christians are specifically Catholics or Orthodox, and they think American Protestants are a bunch of cringey, over-acting, greed-headed, heretical Johnny-Come-Latelies.
Yeah it’s bs. I’m living in a small city and we have our share of immigrants from many backgrounds and ethnicities. Ten years ago it was a big deal when Turkish guy opened a kebab, nowadays you see people with darker skin everywhere and every time of the day.
That's straight up BS, nobody keeps such a census in Poland, there is literally no verified data on "races" or colour of the skin of people living in Poland.
Please don't spread this fake info, Poland is used more than enough in BS foreign propaganda, we neither need it nor want it.
There are quite a lot of immigrants in Krakow (where I live). My apartment is located next to a delivery pick up spot so I’m used to seeing a lot of people from different countries. I’ve enver had any issues with them, local drunks and British tourists on the other hand…
I think its less romantization of Poland and more critisism of any major city in the west.
Seemingly for no reason almost all of these countries decided to let people immigrate en masse from very different societies without doing any attempt to assimilate them.
True! I'm a Polish woman and I'm really disgusted when foreigners on internet fetishize us. According to them, every Polish woman is a beautiful trad wife who wears traidtional clothing on daily basis. They fetishize Slavs in general. Believe it or not, but we're like every other person in the world.
Fetishization of Poland in general tbh. Poland is treated by some people like some kind of utopia, free from immigrants and full of beautiful white women ready to marry those racist chuds.
When I see questions from dudes on the internet like "Do Polish women like men from x country", "How are Polish women like", "Are Polish women into foreigners", I'm like ewwww.
This all "Polish women would love to stay at home at raise kids for you, the foreigner man" is funny especially that based of fertility/working hours per week/or even % of women as managers statistics the Polish women seems to be further from "traditional wives" stereotype than women in "woke" countries.
I'm Italian. Back in uni I've studied polish with the exact intent of moving to Poland for a number of reason. None of those were the ethnic homogeneity that does exist, especially outside of some voivodship capitals, mind you. I actually like and find value in different people and their different culture meeting, sharing and interconnecting. I kind of miss that, but that's beside the point.
I've been living in Poland for 8 years, I've build my family and my network here in Śląsk, and I'm two years away from getting my polish citizenship, which I very much look forward to.
I speak polish quite fluently and I often actively partecipate to the cultural life in the town I live in: I play in jam sessions with local musicians, I take my kid to activities and event organised by the local Centrum Kultury, i get angry when people call Silesian a dialect and not a language and I'm cooking an ogórkowa as i'm writing this.
I am aware, though that wasn't my intention, that I am the epitome of what a certain section of right-wingers (and not only) think of when they talk about regular, integrated migrants. Probably also because from the EU and for an Italian, my complexion is not even that dark.
I personally believe there isn't one better way to be a migrant, I have had a lot of co-workers and friends who, unlike me, came here just for work, didn't learn the language and did not really want to engage with poles or do anything outside of their group of Italian friends. And that's fine, I don't get it, but all power to them.
This all to say that rhetorics like the one on the "meme" do not really touch me at all, I am not their target and I know that for a lot of reasons I have it MUCH EASIER than other ethnic groups here.
YET, it makes my blood fucking boil. Lately, I am seeing a huge wave of Italians kind of regurgitating these talking points, especially guys in their 20s working in Krakow or Warsaw for like a year or so. They say how much Poland is much safer, cleaner, more ordered etc... and the punchline is ALWAYS the lack of "ne*ri", as they say.
Don't get me wrong, there's not a single day of my adult life that I've felt safer in Italy rather than in Poland. Though in the past couple years things surely have shifted for me as well, but mainly for being queer and married to a transgender person.
But that aside, I wonder what leads a certain group of migrants (or "expat" as they call themselves) to revolt against people that similarly to them (and probably for much serious reasons) found themselves trying to find fortune or just bring some bread home in a country, where not only is thousands of kilometres away from their homeland, where they speak a different language and have different customs, but we're also they're being treated with hostility.
99% of people wouldn't EVER go through all that, have they had a better choice. Can we fucking start treating people with the kindness and respect they intrinsically deserve? Amd I know it's a bit of a cliché, but that's actually how it works: when they'll be done with dark skin extra-EU migrants, it won't end there. They'll jump to the next victims, perhaps dark skin EU migrants, then EU migrants in general, then perhaps poles that don't adhere to a certain political/cultural/religious view of the society, and so on. So, if you (not you the OP, it's a general "you") are totally unable to empathise with members of the same species as you, can you at least be a civil fucking human being for your own sake?
Fucking hell. Fuck those racist assholes
This was a stream of consciousness, idk if it makes sense, and if it's grammatically sound and I don't care to check.
Yeah don’t even bother arguing, it has been specified multiple times before by different people that immigration from a similar culture, respect and religion does not bother anyone, yet they act like what we are getting in Europe is the same as a Spanish moving to Portugal, or a Ukrainian moving to Poland…
Here in the Middle East. Muslims always fantasize about the European way of living. They also suppress us (lgbt, atheists, and other groups) which are clearly more compatible with western societies.
They pursue a double order. Where active replacing the European culture because they can't integrate with it. While also persecuting those who are clearly more compatible. And many of us are engineers and scientists.
It's a government issue. If those governments did some private interrogations about their asylum seekers things would've been different for everyone.
It’s because they don’t care enough to do research or investigate
Greedy Corporations see it as a good way to get away with not paying anyone a proper amount of money and basically profiting off Slave Labor since they know their Citizens won’t tolerate being treated like that, where as someone more desperate is used to worse
It’s actually inherently Racist because it’s still taking advantage of people but people who believe propaganda won’t get that
I don’t hate anyone just for how they were born and i think they fail to realize that alot of people are also oppressed by this in their Countries
I think ultimately they’re being exploited and having their anger directed at the wrong people, while some of them are just Criminals who wanted to escape Justice because of what they did in their own Country, this isn’t limited to just non-White Countries, this is also a thing with Albania
Replace the previous population with a population that’s more obedient is a good way to prevent revolts and protests
Hence the push for it without any investigation or making sure these are actually people with families and not former Criminals
If they did care they would be making sure they prioritized Young Families, especially Children who are in danger, yet they don’t, why is that? Because it was never about that, that’s the selling point, they want people to think that, if people knew the real goal there would be civil unrest.
Im proud of our strict (could be even stricter though) immigration policy and that my country is one of the safest in the world, but I don't want people to talk about it. Leave us alone and just vote for some good party in your country, and please stop idealising us.
Edit: Poland isn't city btw, ngl 75% that American made this meme
It's not, redditors just use these kinda posts to get upvotes because it makes them feel better.
Immigration is a real problem that isn't as black and white as these chronicly online people make it out to be.
oh they still do consider other slavs subhuman, poland just gets a pass because it’s a “white christian paradise” (even though there are more religious countries in europe, but whatever)
Rel! I also hate when Polish men who usually hate feminism say immigrants are bad because they will rape Polish women. That just shows they don't treat rape as a crime, but as a sexual competition with other races. Statistically, there's more chance a woman will be raped by her husband than an immigrant and somehow marriages are not forbidden. Anyway, it's really sad how normal are racism and xenophobia in Polish and Poland-related media
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u/New_Bike_6157 16h ago
I live in a rular area in Poland and I hear a lot of stories about city people moving to rular areas for "peace and viliage life" and after they move here with thier romanticised view of the countryside they have problems with loud farming equpiment and bad smell from animals, they file up petitions to limit the use off that heavy equipment to make thier life more comfortable. They come here and complain and want to change the place they moved to in thier image, and im preaty duckin sure that those are the same people that complain about imigrants from Arabic countries, Ukraine and east in general not asimiliating and wanting to change our country in thier image. Hypocricy is insane.
Ps. Sorry for bad english