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u/MaximumSyrup3099 4h ago
Muscle pain is good. Joint and tendon pain is bad. Emotional pains is... Um... Are you done using that machine?
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u/Omophorus 2h ago
Tendon pain probably means you're a rock climber rather than a weightlifter. 😭
(In seriousness, tendon pain is bad no matter what, but most rock climbers will experience it at some point regardless of how careful they're trying to be, it's just the consequence of putting so much load on tendons that most people don't really load too heavily)
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u/Hot_Glass_6301 54m ago
I started rock climbing a year ago and I think I'm starting to feel pain/ worrying about injury even though I've been very careful with "progressive overload", warming up etc... even taking short breaks from climbing (twice a week to once or zero) form time to time. I got much stronger and leaner though, and I prefer it to lifting (still lift a bit for injury prevention&lower body strength)
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u/Omophorus 39m ago
I have gained more useful strength from climbing than lifting, and my only regret is that I didn't find it younger.
I'm in my 40s now, and started climbing in my late 30s, but the people who started climbing younger have such an easier time with recovery.
Definitely much stronger and leaner than I've ever been, but also had a pulley rupture and other intermittent hiccups in spite of trying to be careful, because climbing is just hard on your whole body.
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u/Hot_Glass_6301 35m ago
yeah I'm in my early 20s but still feel like I recover slowly, I wish I had started as a kid lol
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u/Omophorus 27m ago
My son is 12 and it's insane how good he is. He's small for his age, and is due to sprout (I was too until I wasn't).
He doesn't think he'll ever be better than me (he's sent V6 and can consistently send V4 or V5 in a session with an occasional flash, at a home gym that does not grade soft), and doesn't realize that he's maybe a year away from making me look like a chump.
Kids are unfairly good.
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u/dad_farts 3h ago
Low weight and you can keep coming back week after week is much better then taking several weeks off due to injury.
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u/InvertReverse 2h ago
"No one is born strong." Is the one I was told. Take your time, build it up. Focus on the form.
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u/Embarrassed_Deer9208 2h ago
it's not even always about high weight causing injury, you should train for your goals, if you want to lift heavy, you should go high weight for only a few reps, sometimes going slow and sometimes not based on your coach's advice (newcomers who don't have a coach yet generally should not worry too much about going slow for powerlifting, you want to be a comfortable speed), if you want a body builder physique, lower weight very slow for around 12 reps a set is great, if you're training for a sport with lots of explosive movement, some lifts you will try to do fast based on your coach's advice
since most gym goers are focused on aesthetics, going slow for high reps is usually best, and ofc you always want good form, but higher weight and faster doesn't mean bad form, it just means different results
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u/mrtrouble22 2h ago
I wish my gym would stop letting people workout in flip flops, slides, house slippers and crocs! ><
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u/KingNTheMaking 4h ago
Bro’s right.
Also lower the weight. You have nothing to prove. Find a weight that is a challenge but doable for a full set. When it’s gone from “challenging” to “comfortable” then you can increase.
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u/didelphisvirginianus 3h ago
Yeah. It takes some feeling out though cause it's a fine line, and then you gotta track what you're lifting each time. You should be able to do just about as many reps as you're shooting for, leaving one or two in the tank until the last set. If your goal is muscle-building ofc.
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u/Hot_Glass_6301 52m ago
Even if your goal is strength, you should be able to control your reps. It's just usually fewer reps with more weight, but form is still important. Except if you are Lu. But you are not Lu.
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u/The_Lost_Jedi 3h ago
Yeah. Also higher repetitions of lower weight are useful too. You don't have anyone to impress at the gym, the simple fact that you're there is because you want to improve, and improving is the important thing, not where you're at right this moment.
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u/Beretot 1h ago
Not only number of repetition, but also speed of repetitions. I got way better returns when I studied up a bit and read up about hypertrophy.
Putting in layman's terms, you want to make a strong but controlled extension, then "cook" your muscle on the return. Make it slow, make it painful. At the very end, extend and stretch your muscle as much as possible. That's the point where you get the most returns.
Not only that, if you make slow eccentric (the "return") movements, you can tire your muscles with much much lower weights, which massively reduces the risk of injury
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u/Turgid_Donkey 2h ago
That's also called ego lifting. It's when you're more worried about how much you're lifting over how you're lifting. Lift too much and you're form suffers, you can't do as many quality reps, and you're more likely to hurt yourself. Decide how many reps you're going to do, and list an amount that makes you push to finish the last 2-3, depending on total. If you're grunting on rep 1, you probably have too much weight.
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u/DoofusIdiot 2h ago
There are multiple ways of working out for many different goals. Strength, hypertrophy, endurance, power are some. Training is somewhat goal-dependent. And even when focused on one goal, like me with hypertrophy, there are times it makes sense to vary training protocols. Furthermore, there are recent studies showing things like similar hypertrophic progression for using heavier or lighter weights so long as the exercise is taken to similar levels of failure.
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u/TamariAmari 2h ago
So define a “full set” for the group.
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u/KingNTheMaking 1h ago
If it would be where you approach muscular failure. Where you arrive at a point where you can no longer move this weight while maintaining good form. This range can be anywhere from 5 to 35 sets and create growth.
But, a healthy set range usually exists between 8 to 12 repetitions.
If you believe that you can do approximately 8 to 10 repetitions of a movement while maintaining good form, that’s probably a good wait for you to go for. Once you feel that you can go above 12? It’s probably best to move to a heavier weight.
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u/Isekomix_ 4h ago
Thanks for reading !!
Bro got me rethinking my whole life...
If you're interested in supporting there's fanservice
and exclusive comics on Patreon!
Hope you have a great weekend and I see you in the next one !
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u/SilentCabose 3h ago
Seems like this legit happened to you. You make the most random of friends at the gym. One guy was the hot dog cart guy who was just jacked and had perfect form, he recognized me from my nights downtown and he would spot me and give me decent form advice. He's still out there selling hot dogs to drunk college kids. Turns out he owns a cleaning company as his day job. We go to different gyms now but we keep up on socials.
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u/Gho5tWr1ter 3h ago
I see broskis lifting heavy but I always do it a bit light because I’m not that strong yet. I’ve always been insecure of myself and always thought that I’ll never be like them.
One of the frequent members of my gym, who also trains the broskis, saw me in the locker room. I was finished for the day and he was about to start, so we were chatting up after the meet and greet. He asked me whether I’m done, I told him it was legs and I’ve given my best but it simply not wasn’t enough.
He gave me this surprised look and simply said “you’ve done really well, I’ve seen you work out, don’t think like that, you’re doing well and I’m proud of you!” He may have said that for motivation, but I swear if I hadn’t left, I’d have cried then and there. I laughed, thanked him and left. But I did leave with a big smile on my face.
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u/vi_sucks 4h ago
Love that Shirtless Guy goes to a gym with signs reminding people to wear a shirt.
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u/ChooCupcakes 4h ago
Got me wondering if the patreon version has everybody shirtless except for the guy in the picture
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u/SilentStevedore 3h ago
I appreciate that ‘The Thinker’ pose is correct with the elbow resting on the opposite knee.
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u/Isekomix_ 3h ago
Thank you !! It's such an iconic sculpture, I had to go look for references to get it right !
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u/SilentStevedore 1h ago
It really is. It was just a bit shocking when I got to see one of them in person. (For the uninformed: Rodin made multiple copies.). And I realized that it’s actually a kinda awkward pose. Who sits like that??
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u/alienblue89 2h ago
Wild you’d go through all that effort to research a pose but not run the world “struggling” through a spellcheck even once.
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u/Banjo-Elritze Nazi Liquifier 2h ago edited 2h ago
Imagine typing out a snarky comment on the internet over a missing g.
PS: Imagine leaving another snarky comment and then blocking like a coward.
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u/alienblue89 2h ago edited 2h ago
Imagine bothering to reply to said snarky comment
EDIT: imagine being so butthurt over being blocked you have to edit your initial comment to try and “get the last word”.
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u/Fabulous-Possible758 3h ago
Everyone just ignoring the thigh crusher in the back?
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u/Calm-Wedding-9771 3h ago
I wasnt expecting this little comic to be the most meaningful thing i read all day
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u/originalchaosinabox 3h ago
"You gotta get behind yourself, not in front. The front is just a facade. But when you back yourself, there's nothing you can't achieve.
Good journey.
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u/LiteralFirefox 3h ago
Gym bros will always either be the most gentle of giants or the most miserable assholes
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u/HektorViktorious 3h ago
Remember bros, any exercise can be a back exercise if you do it wrong enough!
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u/Nihiliste 3h ago
Aside from the metaphorical angle, that's true on a strength-building level too. You'll make better progress lifting manageable weights with good form than testing the limits on every set.
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u/DizzyAsparagus9622 2h ago
Oo boy. This brings back painful memories. 2-3 weeks ago one of my best buds calls me. Almost in tears.
Bro is 32 (M) 5'3". Let's call him A. And balding. Recently divorced, started going to the gym. And is actually getting better day by day. I can see it.
One day A is waiting for a guy to finish his set. Guy gets up leaves for the washroom and doesn't come back for few minutes. My buddy starts his workout, guy comes back and shouts hey! I am still in the middle of my workout. Let's call this guy B A: I thought you are done/or left B: what did u think, I went to turkey to get hair for you.
A says nothing and goes to a different station. After a while B is done with his workout and is leaving the gym and shouts to A. "Take care little man"
My buddy is devastated. Gets home calls me Almost on the verge of a breakdown.
It doesn't take anything to be nice to someone. Be nice. Don't be an asshole. Life comes at everyone like a freight train and Karma is a bitch. Mightier people than you have fallen before.
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u/buttgoblincomics Butt Goblin 4h ago
Realistic that when I sit down to try to have a heavy think, I just think the words “thinking heavily”
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u/Dock_Ellis45 3h ago
Okay, we need to have an intervention. These puns are carrying too much weight.
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u/scaleofjudgment 3h ago
Bro right, the form and routine is far more valuable than the prestige.
But to have a good prestige you need to perfect your form and routine bro.
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u/ClericOfMadness13 2h ago
Reminds me about the yolk shorts on YouTube where the gumbo yolks are super supportive and give great advice to the new gym users.
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u/goldman459 2h ago
Technique is more important than mass. Only increase the weight if you can lift it perfectly.
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u/petervaz 2h ago
You don't need to hurt yourself, there's an entire universe out there focusing on that.
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u/iEnjoyDanceMusic 2h ago
Fr tho it's not about the weight, it's about how heavy it feels.
Don't gotta be the best, but your best.
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u/Ragnarok_619 1h ago
Don't ego lift, guys. Its gonna cost you your joints.
Trust me, you gonna gain your muscles by training with discipline
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u/UpCDownCLeftCRightC Never Safe From Wumbo 4h ago
It's not always about lifting weights. It's also about lifting one another up.